Ieri mattina le tre confederazioni sindacali Filctem CGIL, Femca CISL e UILtec UIL, con presenti due delegati ISF, uno della Filctem e uno della Femca, hanno incontrato nuovamente i Direttori dell’Ospedale Maggiore (Azienda Ospedaliero-Universitaria) e dell’Azienda sanitaria locale di Parma.
The managements of the two health companies have presented a new internal regulation with the aim of meeting the complaints of the ISF, while keeping the point on traceability firm (a point they have admitted is to protect themselves against the behavior of doctors and informants).
Visiting hours 12-18 in suitable places (medical offices, libraries or, in extreme cases, clinics not during visiting hours).
They also guaranteed the verification of the procedure in the following months and the will to keep the relations between OOSS and the Company open.
A homogeneous simplified procedure would be needed for the whole Region. The Region informs that our observations and notes received with respect to the further development of the regional regulation are being evaluated and will also be presented to the Health Authorities during a meeting on the subject of scientific information.
Basically they propose a compromise by mitigating the absurdities of the previously established modalities for meetings between ISF and doctors. What remains is a form and minutes of the meeting you need 
An important magistrate says that corruption "you don't fight with the National Anti-Corruption Authority”. The illustrious Magistrate points out that "for years" regulations are written “with increasingly stringent rules that annoy respectable companies and are neither hot nor cold for delinquent ones”. “I don't think corruption can be fought with this type of prevention, which prevents little or nothing. Problems are prevented by knowing them, and corruption can only be known by carrying out investigations, arrests and trials, not by checking the regularity of administrative and bureaucratic practices. Experience teaches that, when one wants to commit a crime, he is very careful to take care of the form to leave all the cards in place”.
But are we sure they really know the world of ISF, do they know that there are KAM, KIM, MSL, vendors of supplements, dermo-cosmetics, baby milk, etc., never mentioned in their regulations?
Evidently the problem for the Authorities who impose absurd regulations is to protect themselves in order to be able to say "we have done everything to prevent malfeasance”, in reality the only important thing for them is to safeguard their seat with useless rules which do not prevent anything, but are formally fine.
Better the new proposal, it didn't take much to improve that horror of before, but not good.
Redazione – 16 novembre 2017
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Parma. The hallucinating request form for a meeting between ISF and Doctors at the hospital. Ed
Indications_applications_ISF – Reg. ER Annex 1
ANAC. Guidelines Codic Behavior SSN. (page 10, at the bottom)
We remind you of the modality in force at the Parma Hospital: La richiesta di incontro, debitamente compilata e firmata dall’ISF, va inviata con apposito module to the secretariat of the Pharmacy and Clinical Drug Governance Service, by email, at the address: registryisf@ao.pr.it
In the module name, surname, company, date of birth, tax code, subject of the request, topic to be discussed, etc. must be indicated. The form must indicate the commercial name of the drug to be discussed, the active ingredient, pharmaceutical form, dosage, ATC, reason for the request and whether free samples will be delivered. All this for up to three drugs.
Within 10 working days, the Pharmacy and Clinical Drug Governance Service carries out an initial assessment of the adequacy of the request and will only send the authorization to the Department Director or the Head(s) of the Operating Units or Simple Departmental Structures concerned.
The Service will send the Scientific Informant the notification of receipt of the request email and any negative response. The Service Staff cannot release information regarding the status of the authorizations being processed.
Se il Direttore di Dipartimento o il/i Responsabile/i delle Unità Operative o alle Strutture Semplici Dipartimentali interessate daranno il loro consenso verrà comunicato al medico che l’ISF vorrebbe incontrare, la richiesta. Se il medico dichiarerà la propria disponibilità lo comunicherà al proprio Direttore/Primario che lo comunicherà al Direttore di Dipartimento che lo comunicherà alla Farmacia dell’Ospedale che, dopo una seconda valutazione, finalmente comunicherà all’ISF richiedente l’ora e il luogo dell’incontro
The meeting between the ISF and the doctor must be recorded and the report sent to the pharmacy